Random rantings and ravings of the latest items of interest to me and those closest to me. When I hooked up with a trout, the half-moon bend in the rod looked awesome, but there was still enough backbone to steer the 20+ inch browns to the net. Sharpe’s bamboo rod lay dries on the water with more aplomb. You can follow Lesser Places by email, or on Twitter, Tumblr, and Instagram using the menu at the top of the page. In today’s rod market, that’s a decent price. Learn how your comment data is processed. I’ve called these rods “snub-nosed rocket launchers” in the past, and I still think that description works well: they are powerful and useful rods, assuming you can hit anything with them. The new standard has arrived in fiberglass fly rods. As any regular reader of this column knows, I’m a sucker for rods with slow, classic action, and that’s exactly what this series of rods deliver. FULL REVIEW A supple slow-action taper coupled with a firm butt section makes the Superfine Glass a top-notch dry fly tool capable of handling big fish. The 804 Superfine Carbon wasn’t built with that in mind. ( Log Out /  Orvis H2 Tip-Flex 5 wt. Perhaps that is the best way to think about the superfine carbon: it is faster than glass but slower than all the new-fangled ultra-distance rods that … Only my Tom Morgan Favorite WT Winston and antique J.S. On the other, being just seven feet doesn’t give you a lot of leverage to work with, which means all that power has to be fit into a comparatively tiny space. I love being able to throw dries to trout without thinking about the cast. The perfect length at 7'6" for tight casting and small pools, our glass 3-wt. The Orvis Superfine Glass Fly Rod throws dry flies with a balanced touch and will even sling streamers when necessary. Best of all, the superfine doesn’t have to be overlined– I’ve found that mine pairs well with an Orvis Access 4-weight and hates my (beloved) Airflo Xceed 5-weight. Both the 905 and 804 excel at fishing dries. Anyhow, much to CaryGreenes' chagrin, I ordered the 9 foot 5 wt superfine carbon. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. The Glass also works well when drifting small nymphs or dry-dropper rigs (fishing with a dry fly rigged with a small nymph hanging below it) on those same mid-sized waters. Orvis is the one company that has always had a slow action series in their rod line up – the Superfines. The Orvis SuperFine Touch masters the art of presenting small dry flies to finicky surface feeding fish. You still get amazing build quality and a 25-year warranty when you buy the Superfine Carbon, and you’re only out $425. I really shouldn’t say anything else and […], Umpqua Feather Merchants just released their new line of UPG fly boxes. That being said, I think a rod with such classic action, and a full-cork grip and reel seat, should come with the downlocking reel seat option. Spencer Durrant is a fly fishing writer and novelist from Utah. It is good without being pretentious, handsome without being gaudy, and uniquely competent at everything. The grip, which is a little on the small side, is expertly shaped. Now, let’s dive into a few specifics about the rods. For one, as a 4-weight it has to be a capable general purpose rod, strong enough to throw any reasonable fly you can tie. View All Products, Contact Info ( Log Out /  The 804 handled nymphs fine, but again – it performed better when fished with a dry-dropper rig than two nymphs, split shot, and a strike indicator. All in all, I was highly impressed with this series of rods. I don’t know if you can find a better classic-action, dry fly rod for $425. I’m not aware of any major rod builder, aside from Tom Morgan, that makes rods with downlocking reel seats any longer. Even though these rods are exceptionally light, the amount of force exerted on your casting arm from the full-flex action is definitely felt after a solid 10-hour day on the water. That’s not always a bad thing – if you’re consistently catching fish 22 inches or bigger, take me with you – since not every trout requires 5wt power to land. He was right. It is a compromise. Orvis did a good job at listening and there will soon be a 7'6" three weight and a 8'6" six weight (complete with fighting butt) to choose from rounding out the family to five fly rods in the Superfine Glass series. If, on the other hand, you want a constant companion, a rod that will stick with you for years, the superfine carbon is your new best friend. The Superfine Glass 2-Weight 6'6" Fly Rod was made for primeval woods and cold mountain streams—small streams and native brook trout. Rod designer Shawn Combs at Orvis started the process several years ago. Superfine Glass: Get ready to change the way you feel. Or, you could click the links below to share with your friends directly. I just received the smallest of them all, a 7ft #3. Legal Information Designed for small to medium sized streams, this is the perfect dry … Any discussion of the superfine should answer an obvious question: is it superfine? I, like most outdoors people, get thirsty on my adventures. I’ve yet to cast a … 2⅛ oz. In the end, the heavier swing weight of the Superfine Carbon made me partial to the TMF, but only slightly so. The superfine is full-flex, which mitigates these problems slightly. And at that point, I’d overline the rod and double-haul every cast. In the world of big spooky fish, where delicate touch is key, our glass 6-weight excels. I tried to get Winston to put a downlocking reel seat on my TMF when they built it a few months ago, and I was informed that’s something they don’t build anymore. These rods are fairly light, although they pack a heavier-than-average swing weight, thanks to their slow action. It’s a catch-22, but it’s one of the traits of the Superfine Carbon series that’ll make you think twice about fishing it on a gusty day. In short, if you can’t hit what you are aiming at with this rod, you better look it right in the cork and say, “It’s not you, it’s me.”. I've played around with several prototypes of these two new fly rods and they are both excellent. Thanks to the generosity of Tom Rosenbauer, I’ve had two extra fly rods in my quiver for the past three weeks – the Orvis Superfine Carbon 905 and 804. I fished the 804 alongside my Tom Morgan Favorite WT (804 model) and it was an incredibly close call to which rod I preferred more, for dry fly fishing. Get the best deals on Orvis Superfine when you shop the largest online selection at eBay.com. I’m also a sucker for beautiful craftsmanship, and Orvis knocked it out of the park with this rod series. If your after a slower action rod, check out the Superfine Carbon and if your really like slooww and smooth, then look at the Superfine Glass. The 804 does an even better job of dry fly presentation, but as with any 4wt, you sacrifice power and backbone for delicacy. Customer Service: After a several-decade hiatus from fiberglass, Orvis has come back into the glass game. Re: Glass vs plastic A graphite Sage Circa is a slow action fly rod made for those that prefer that type of action. I fished nymphs and streamers with these rods as well, although I didn’t use a streamer on the 804. […], Please pay attention to the next five words that you read…….William Joseph Confluence Chest Pack. Near the end of the cast, the line would lose a bit of its power and accuracy. Change ). The TMF has a stiffer tip, though, which lends itself well to short casts in tight quarters. That being said, if you need to boom out the rod, you can. 138 West 280 South If you are looking at the superfine series, there is a good chance you are trying to decide between the carbon and the fiberglass. ORVIS ORVIS SUPERFINE 7'9" Carbon Fly Fishing Rod Trout Bum 0107 In very good condition. I've only used graphite, but I'm very optimistic on glass. line. 8'6", 4-piece fly rod for 3-wt. We’ve applied modern Orvis taper design principles to a classic rod-building material to produce a fiberglass rod that’s smooth and slow, yet crisp and strong. You can follow him on twitter @maxomillions. Wish Lists Price Match Crisp bamboo, but bamboo nonetheless. Accessibility Policy Orvis Commits 5% of pre-tax profits to protecting nature. That being said, this is clearly a rod that was put together by a person who cares about doing their job and a rod you’ll feel good about handing down to your kids. The 804 isn’t a rod I’d throw a streamer on unless you absolutely had to. Glass fly rods are historic and provide a feel that is difficult to match with any newer rod technology. Welcome! Ending Nov 19 at 10:31AM ... New 6ft 6in 4pc 2wt,2tips ,IM8 carbon blank,fast action. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. They have an very comparable action to bamboo, in all honesty. Fiberglass rods are generally heavier and slower action than any graphite rod on the market. Basically we support any way you want to share. But I wouldn’t use the 905 as a go-to nymph or streamer rod. It was built to roll cast marvelously, throw to picky trout, and provide a full-flexing rod action. A few months ago, disaster struck our little household: I was in the backyard practicing with my Orvis Clearwater 704 (a rod I liked quite a lot) when my toddler decided to have a bit too much fun. Has light scratches/scuffs. In the $300-450 range, it’s hard to find something that beats this offering. It’s a tough call between the inexpensive Echo Carbon XL and the Echo3 above, or you can get the Orvis kit for about $300 including a reel and line. Delicate presentation and subtle feel for the ultimate in a small-stream rod. Orvis markets these as “full-flex” rods, and that’s not just marketing mumbo-jumbo crafted to drum up sales. The Superfine Carbon can throw beyond 50 feet, but it loses some of its accuracy, even if you’re a better caster than I am. The 804 flexes much deeper than the TMF, so smaller fish are a lot more fun on it. Only 1 left! The 804 is just a bit underpowered to throw a whole bunch of heavy flies, split shot, and an indicator. SHIPPING Outside of the Continental 48 States or to PO Box. How soon we forget that the Circa won several "best" fly rod awards in 2012. The 905 is the rod to use if you want to nymph with a heavier nymph rig. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. ... see the Echo Glass or pricier Orvis Superfine. Orvis is continually impressing me with every rod they produce these days, and for $425 the Superfine Carbon is competitively priced. Orvis Superfine Glass Review Date: 11/16/2018. Or, copy and paste the URL someplace you think people will find it useful. Connect with him on Twitter or Instagram @Spencer_Durrant, or on Facebook at www.facebook.com/spencerdurrantauthor. ( Log Out /  Slow down. That said, two smaller flies in pocket water with the 804 is an awesome experience. I broke this rod in on the Green during a decent BWO hatch, and it handled presentations smoothly. All in all, the components and finishes are not as nice as those mid-range models, but are significantly better than most similarly priced rods. I assumed this was due to my mediocre casting skills, but two guide buddies of mine casted both rods and noticed the same thing. All that being said, I do think it is possible to have too much of a good thing. That's what glass rods are all about and our Superfine Glass 8' 6" 6-weight defines how a fine glass rod should behave. I aaalways wanted an Orvis Superfine One Ounce (2 weight rod) - and seeing Koos Eckard's builds on the Orvis blanks makes me yearn for one again. The Superfine® Glass throws dry flies with a balanced touch and will even sling streamers when necessary. ( Log Out /  My only real complaint about the rod’s looks are that the cork is almost too perfect, as it is so tightly grained to almost looks featureless from a distance. $25.00. The Orvis Superfine Touch was discontinued in 2015. Orvis Hydros Superfine Fly Line is the perfect technical precision line for trout and is specifically designed for the Superfine Carbon and Superfine Glass fly rods. Have never cast the Orvis and so can't offer any input there. Because the rod flexes deeply you aren’t reliant on having absolutely perfect timing to keep your loops in shape. That’s not a bad thing, but you’ll definitely notice more of an ache in your casting arm after a day of throwing the Superfine Carbon as opposed to the Helios 2. (ADDENDUM NOVEMBER 14, 2017: Since writing this post I have switched over the a Rio InTouch Gold 4wt line and greatly prefer it to the Orvis Access as it gives the rod far more “feel.” However, in my casting I have notice that I lose a little distance in exchange for feel, with accuracy beginning to degrade past 50 feet and the rod running out of gas at 65 ft. An actual casting expert, as compared to an internet casting expert, could probably cast it further, but if you are casting more than 50 feet you have the space to bring more rod). So I'm still beating my head against my phone, sifting through articles and reviews on glass rods. Affiliate Program Sure, you could buy a sweet new H3 and cast to the moon or you could buy a glass rod and really feel the close in shots, but the existence of the superfine carbon begs a simple question: why not have a rod that is good at both? With a little patience and a light double haul, 75 foot casts are possible, but the little guy really starts running out of gas at those distances.You’ll want to be careful to keep your hauls reasonable as well, as this is a rod you can overpower. Completely redesigned from the bottom up, these new fly boxes […], Retail Store  $6.86 shipping. The Superfine Glass fly rod was voted the best fiberglass rod by Fly Fisherman magazine. Fiberglass fly rods are about feel, accurate casting, and that classic bend, and the Superfine Glass delivers these all perfectly. I was casting it with the 5 Wt Hydros power taper line and a size 4 google bullet, with hook removed, and had no problem developing nice tight loops … (435) 783-6791 Post was not sent - check your email addresses! To include (but certainly not limited to) anything in the realm of heat accumulation - wind driven - gravity wave sinusoidal energy transfer (surfing in its multiple permutations), observing and catching nature's eye candy (fish, crustaceans, cniderians, mollusks and other … The Abel had RIO DT LightLine, while the Hardy rocked the WF LightLine. 0 bids. The 905 handled a nymph rig fine, and as long as you use a double haul and really pay attention to the load of the line, it’ll throw an average-sized Wooly Bugger. It's now been replaced by the new Orvis Superfine Carbon and sits alongside the new Superfine Glass, for those who fancy something even more old school in feel. I like the way a rod is balanced when the reel sits at the very end of the rod, and on my rods that feature a downlocker, I seem to tangle line around the reel less frequently. With classic fiberglass action—soft and forgiving— this is the rod for your small–stream adventures. Perhaps that is the best way to think about the superfine carbon: it is faster than glass but slower than all the new-fangled ultra-distance rods that everyone seems to love. A Hardy Zenith (not really sure how Sintrix differs from graphite) that weighs 3.5 ounces, a graphite St. Croix Bank Robber that weighs 3.9 ounces and a glass Epic 686 that weighs 3.7 ounces. I did notice a slight hitch in the cast when throwing past 50 feet, on both models. In my limited time playing with the glass versions at the store I found it to be a little too heavy, a little too soft, and, at 7.5 feet, a little too long. 2-7/8 OZ 5 wt Line Full Flex 4.0 Comes as pictured in metal Orvis cylinder. Butterstick vs orvis superfine glass, or echo. Carbon offers more versatility for your casts than fiberglass can do. Thanks to the generosity of Tom Rosenbauer, I’ve had two extra fly rods in my quiver for the past three weeks – the Orvis Superfine Carbon 905 and 804. No details were spared in the making of this soon–to–be classic. Max Wilson is a graduate student studying ecology at Arizona State University. I’m happy to report that the answer is yes, the superfine is very superfine. None of that matters, however, if the thing doesn’t fish well. The Superfine Touch remains an extremely sought after rod, so they still demand high prices on the second hand market. Orvis makes a new glass rod series called Superfine Glass that’s ‘only’ $395 and for that price you get an all made-in-USA rod. It should be noted here that I tested both of these rods using an Abel TR-2 reel on the 905 and a Hardy Princess on the 804. 4PC. Maybe you want to go through rod after rod, ever chasing something faster or more retro. Daily: 9AM-5PM, Shipping Address  As with any slow-action fly rod, you sacrifice power to fight wind in order to achieve delicate presentations. Manchester, Vermont, USA. The Orvis Superfine Carbon is a perfect all-rounder for trout fishing on quiet and windy days alike. Or, print the story, place it in a nice envelope, and send it to one of your friends. Random rantings and ravings of the latest items of interest to me and those closest to me. Orvis Superfine Glass 763-3 $429.00 Length: 7'6" Line Weight: 3 Pieces: 3 If supertight streams and hidden backcountry creeks are where you play, then you need a Superfine® Glass 3-wt. The same can be said with the Superfine Carbon rods. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. Seven foot 4-weights can be a tough cookie. 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